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2004-05-05 02:41:31 AM
www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml
Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A relatively high amount of fat in the
diet may be a boon to a healthy person's cholesterol levels, a small
study suggests. On the other hand, limiting fat intake too much could
have the opposite effect.
Researchers at the State University of New York at Buffalo found that
when 11 healthy but sedentary adults followed a very low-fat diet (19
percent of calories from fat) for three weeks, they saw a drop in
their HDL cholesterol -- the "good" cholesterol believed to protect
against heart disease.
In contrast, three weeks on a diet that provided 50 percent of
calories from fat boosted participants' HDL levels, according to
findings published in the Journal of the American College of
Nutrition.
To circulate in the blood, cholesterol must be attached to a protein,
forming a complex called a lipoprotein. HDL, or high-density
lipoprotein, molecules carry cholesterol away from the arteries and to
the liver to be cleared from the body. Experts believe that an HDL
level of 60 or more helps lower the risk of heart disease, while a
level lower than 40 raises the risk.
The new findings suggest that adequate fat intake can help ward off
heart disease by raising HDL.
"That isn't to say we think everyone should be on a 50-percent fat
diet," study co-author Dr. David R. Pendergast told Reuters Health.
But, he said, the findings do indicate that moderation, and not tight
restriction, is the way to go. According to Pendergast, that means
getting about 30 to 35 percent of calories from fat -- at or slightly
more than the level health officials currently recommend.
But he also stressed the importance of calorie balance, which means
eating only enough to meet the body's calorie expenditure. Fat has
more calories per gram than either carbohydrates or protein, and if a
person takes in more calories as a result of eating more fat, weight
gain may follow.
While saturated fat is blamed for raising "bad" LDL cholesterol
levels, Pendergast said it may in fact be the combination of lots of
fat and too many calories that makes for unhealthy cholesterol
profiles.
In his team's study, the high-fat diet -- rich in foods such as red
meat and olive oil -- provided roughly the same number of daily
calories as participants' regular diets, which contained about 30
percent of calories from fat.
The 19-percent low-fat diet had fewer calories, and men and women in
the study lost a small amount of weight while following it. Their HDL
levels, however, were significantly lower on this diet than on the
high-fat one-an average of 54 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), versus
63 mg/dL, Pendergast and his colleagues found.
What's more, the high-fat diet did not boost LDL cholesterol beyond
the levels participants had on their regular diets.
Although the men and women followed each diet for only three weeks,
Pendergast said he does not think the cholesterol effects are
"transient."
He and his colleagues had previously conducted a similar study with
endurance runners, in which a very low fat intake had negative effects
on HDL cholesterol and on immune function. Pendergast said this
research suggests that both healthy, sedentary people and healthy
athletes are "probably not well served" by diets very low in fat.
Whether high- and low-fat diets have the same effects in obese
individuals or those with cardiovascular disease is not yet clear, he
noted.
As for why a high-fat, calorie-conscious diet might bump up HDL
levels, one theory is that dietary fat leads to higher levels of the
chief HDL transporter protein, ApoA1.
SOURCE: Journal of the American College of Nutrition, April 2004.
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Hahaha - almost choked!
Anth
"BJ in Texas" <bjtexas@hotmale.com>wrote in message
Quote
Diarmid Logan wrote:
>

www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml
>
>Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart
Wonder how long it will take before all of these people and their dietary
studies will finally come to the conclusion that they don't have a clue?

BJ
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Diarmid Logan wrote:
Quote

www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml

Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A relatively high amount of fat
in the
diet may be a boon to a healthy person's cholesterol levels,
a small
study suggests. On the other hand, limiting fat intake too
much could
have the opposite effect.

Researchers at the State University of New York at Buffalo
found that
when 11 healthy but sedentary adults followed a very low-fat
diet (19
percent of calories from fat) for three weeks, they saw a
drop in
their HDL cholesterol -- the "good" cholesterol believed to
protect
against heart disease.

In contrast, three weeks on a diet that provided 50 percent of
calories from fat boosted participants' HDL levels, according
to
findings published in the Journal of the American College of
Nutrition.

To circulate in the blood, cholesterol must be attached to a
protein,
forming a complex called a lipoprotein. HDL, or high-density
lipoprotein, molecules carry cholesterol away from the
arteries and to
the liver to be cleared from the body. Experts believe that
an HDL
level of 60 or more helps lower the risk of heart disease,
while a
level lower than 40 raises the risk.

The new findings suggest that adequate fat intake can help
ward off
heart disease by raising HDL.

"That isn't to say we think everyone should be on a
50-percent fat
diet," study co-author Dr. David R. Pendergast told Reuters
Health.

But, he said, the findings do indicate that moderation, and
not tight
restriction, is the way to go. According to Pendergast, that
means
getting about 30 to 35 percent of calories from fat -- at or
slightly
more than the level health officials currently recommend.

But he also stressed the importance of calorie balance, which
means
eating only enough to meet the body's calorie expenditure.
Fat has
more calories per gram than either carbohydrates or protein,
and if a
person takes in more calories as a result of eating more fat,
weight
gain may follow.

While saturated fat is blamed for raising "bad" LDL
cholesterol
levels, Pendergast said it may in fact be the combination of
lots of
fat and too many calories that makes for unhealthy cholesterol
profiles.

In his team's study, the high-fat diet -- rich in foods such
as red
meat and olive oil -- provided roughly the same number of
daily
calories as participants' regular diets, which contained
about 30
percent of calories from fat.

The 19-percent low-fat diet had fewer calories, and men and
women in
the study lost a small amount of weight while following it.
Their HDL
levels, however, were significantly lower on this diet than
on the
high-fat one-an average of 54 milligrams per deciliter
(mg/dL), versus 63 mg/dL, Pendergast and his colleagues found.

What's more, the high-fat diet did not boost LDL cholesterol
beyond
the levels participants had on their regular diets.

Although the men and women followed each diet for only three
weeks,
Pendergast said he does not think the cholesterol effects are
"transient."

He and his colleagues had previously conducted a similar
study with
endurance runners, in which a very low fat intake had
negative effects
on HDL cholesterol and on immune function. Pendergast said
this
research suggests that both healthy, sedentary people and
healthy
athletes are "probably not well served" by diets very low in
fat.

Whether high- and low-fat diets have the same effects in obese
individuals or those with cardiovascular disease is not yet
clear, he
noted.

As for why a high-fat, calorie-conscious diet might bump up
HDL
levels, one theory is that dietary fat leads to higher levels
of the
chief HDL transporter protein, ApoA1.

SOURCE: Journal of the American College of Nutrition, April
2004.
Wonder how long it will take before all of these people and their dietary
studies will finally come to the conclusion that they don't have a clue?
BJ
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Personally, I think that this type of thing shows up in studies because
people fail to do low-fat right just as often as people fail to do low-carb
right...they rely on too many calories from low fat carbs, IMHO.
When I did lowfat right (10% of daily calories from fat, 45-50% from
protein, 40-45% from carbs and eating LOTS of lean protein such as turkey
breast, chicken, tuna, salmon, tofu, seitan, legumes, 96% fat free ground
beef, venison, etc) this was the results of my cholesterol tests:
Pre very low-fat: 278 total cholesterol, 74 HDL, rest LDL. 128
triglycerides.
Post very low-fat: 176 total cholesterol, 80 HDL, rest LDL. 38
triglycerides.
--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
www.pawbreakers.com
"Diarmid Logan" <diarmidlogan@gmail.com>wrote in message
Quote
www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml

Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A relatively high amount of fat in the
diet may be a boon to a healthy person's cholesterol levels, a small
study suggests. On the other hand, limiting fat intake too much could
have the opposite effect.

Researchers at the State University of New York at Buffalo found that
when 11 healthy but sedentary adults followed a very low-fat diet (19
percent of calories from fat) for three weeks, they saw a drop in
their HDL cholesterol -- the "good" cholesterol believed to protect
against heart disease.

In contrast, three weeks on a diet that provided 50 percent of
calories from fat boosted participants' HDL levels, according to
findings published in the Journal of the American College of
Nutrition.

To circulate in the blood, cholesterol must be attached to a protein,
forming a complex called a lipoprotein. HDL, or high-density
lipoprotein, molecules carry cholesterol away from the arteries and to
the liver to be cleared from the body. Experts believe that an HDL
level of 60 or more helps lower the risk of heart disease, while a
level lower than 40 raises the risk.

The new findings suggest that adequate fat intake can help ward off
heart disease by raising HDL.

"That isn't to say we think everyone should be on a 50-percent fat
diet," study co-author Dr. David R. Pendergast told Reuters Health.

But, he said, the findings do indicate that moderation, and not tight
restriction, is the way to go. According to Pendergast, that means
getting about 30 to 35 percent of calories from fat -- at or slightly
more than the level health officials currently recommend.

But he also stressed the importance of calorie balance, which means
eating only enough to meet the body's calorie expenditure. Fat has
more calories per gram than either carbohydrates or protein, and if a
person takes in more calories as a result of eating more fat, weight
gain may follow.

While saturated fat is blamed for raising "bad" LDL cholesterol
levels, Pendergast said it may in fact be the combination of lots of
fat and too many calories that makes for unhealthy cholesterol
profiles.

In his team's study, the high-fat diet -- rich in foods such as red
meat and olive oil -- provided roughly the same number of daily
calories as participants' regular diets, which contained about 30
percent of calories from fat.

The 19-percent low-fat diet had fewer calories, and men and women in
the study lost a small amount of weight while following it. Their HDL
levels, however, were significantly lower on this diet than on the
high-fat one-an average of 54 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), versus
63 mg/dL, Pendergast and his colleagues found.

What's more, the high-fat diet did not boost LDL cholesterol beyond
the levels participants had on their regular diets.

Although the men and women followed each diet for only three weeks,
Pendergast said he does not think the cholesterol effects are
"transient."

He and his colleagues had previously conducted a similar study with
endurance runners, in which a very low fat intake had negative effects
on HDL cholesterol and on immune function. Pendergast said this
research suggests that both healthy, sedentary people and healthy
athletes are "probably not well served" by diets very low in fat.

Whether high- and low-fat diets have the same effects in obese
individuals or those with cardiovascular disease is not yet clear, he
noted.

As for why a high-fat, calorie-conscious diet might bump up HDL
levels, one theory is that dietary fat leads to higher levels of the
chief HDL transporter protein, ApoA1.

SOURCE: Journal of the American College of Nutrition, April 2004.
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in
Quote
Personally, I think that this type of thing shows up in studies
because people fail to do low-fat right just as often as people fail
to do low-carb right...they rely on too many calories from low fat
carbs, IMHO.

When I did lowfat right (10% of daily calories from fat, 45-50% from
protein, 40-45% from carbs and eating LOTS of lean protein such as
turkey breast, chicken, tuna, salmon, tofu, seitan, legumes, 96% fat
free ground beef, venison, etc) this was the results of my cholesterol
tests:

Pre very low-fat: 278 total cholesterol, 74 HDL, rest LDL. 128
triglycerides.
Post very low-fat: 176 total cholesterol, 80 HDL, rest LDL. 38
triglycerides.
A caution in interpretation here: IIRC, HDL values as high as the ones you
have are usually a result of a mutation affecting one of the enzymes
involved in lipoprotein control (it's apparently harmless). That means
that you might not be susceptible to factors that would reduce HDL in most
people.
Another question: when you went on the very-low-fat diet, did you decrease
your calorie consumption (i.e. did you lose weight)? If so, you can't rule
out that the improvement in LDL and triglycerides was due to reduced energy
intake and reduced adiposity, rather than a change in macronutrient ratios.
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Quote
A caution in interpretation here: IIRC, HDL values as high as the ones you
have are usually a result of a mutation affecting one of the enzymes
involved in lipoprotein control (it's apparently harmless). That means
that you might not be susceptible to factors that would reduce HDL in most
people.
I find it highly suspicous that I possibly carry some mutation of that
nature given the fact that both my father and my grandfather died before 55
from cardiovascular related problems. Dad at 51, and grandfather at 35. At
any rate, the point is that I'd expect to be at very high risk given my
family history... The fact remains that a very low fat diet actually
INCREASED my HDL, decreased my LDL, and decreased my triglycerieds,
regardless of any genetic mutation that may keep my HDL artificially high
'naturally'. I attribute this to making smarter choices about protein
sources and making a pointed effort to consume mono and polyunsaturated fats
as part of my diet.
Quote
Another question: when you went on the very-low-fat diet, did you decrease
your calorie consumption (i.e. did you lose weight)? If so, you can't
rule
out that the improvement in LDL and triglycerides was due to reduced
energy
intake and reduced adiposity, rather than a change in macronutrient
ratios.
I was on the very-low-fat diet for 6 months. During that time, 5 weeks was
spent hypercaloric, 10 weeks was spent at maintenance, and 9 weeks was spent
hypocaloric. I lost a grand total of 2.5 pounds during the entire
hypocaloric phase, which I highly doubt is enough to significantly affect
any cholesterol levels...
It's just food for thought. I'm sure that someone will find some reason to
'pooh pooh' my results, just as many people in the "other camp" 'pooh pooh'
the results of the low carbers. Frankly, I think both approaches work and
are in fact probably naturally occuring modern day replicas of the
seasonally rotating natural human diet process... You just have to commit to
one and stick to it...it's trying to live 24x7 in the 'middle ground' that
gets people into trouble, IMHO.
--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
www.pawbreakers.com
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to regular fat
consumption?
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
Quote
>A caution in interpretation here: IIRC, HDL values as high as the ones
you
>have are usually a result of a mutation affecting one of the enzymes
>involved in lipoprotein control (it's apparently harmless). That means
>that you might not be susceptible to factors that would reduce HDL in
most
>people.

I find it highly suspicous that I possibly carry some mutation of that
nature given the fact that both my father and my grandfather died before
55
from cardiovascular related problems. Dad at 51, and grandfather at 35.
At
any rate, the point is that I'd expect to be at very high risk given my
family history... The fact remains that a very low fat diet actually
INCREASED my HDL, decreased my LDL, and decreased my triglycerieds,
regardless of any genetic mutation that may keep my HDL artificially high
'naturally'. I attribute this to making smarter choices about protein
sources and making a pointed effort to consume mono and polyunsaturated
fats
as part of my diet.

>Another question: when you went on the very-low-fat diet, did you
decrease
>your calorie consumption (i.e. did you lose weight)? If so, you can't
>rule
>out that the improvement in LDL and triglycerides was due to reduced
>energy
>intake and reduced adiposity, rather than a change in macronutrient
>ratios.

I was on the very-low-fat diet for 6 months. During that time, 5 weeks
was
spent hypercaloric, 10 weeks was spent at maintenance, and 9 weeks was
spent
hypocaloric. I lost a grand total of 2.5 pounds during the entire
hypocaloric phase, which I highly doubt is enough to significantly affect
any cholesterol levels...

It's just food for thought. I'm sure that someone will find some reason
to
'pooh pooh' my results, just as many people in the "other camp" 'pooh
pooh'
the results of the low carbers. Frankly, I think both approaches work and
are in fact probably naturally occuring modern day replicas of the
seasonally rotating natural human diet process... You just have to commit
to
one and stick to it...it's trying to live 24x7 in the 'middle ground' that
gets people into trouble, IMHO.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
www.pawbreakers.com



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"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
Quote
Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to regular fat
consumption?
Why would I do that; it works just fine?
--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
www.pawbreakers.com
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

If you don't use it you lose it. This seems to apply to gallbladders. People
consuming very low fats do not exercise their gallbladders in their daily
food intake and when returning to normal eating can find their gallbladder
full of stones or not functioning properly.
Atkins explains this in his book and the high fat/low carb diet usually gets
the blame as it usually coincides with starting a higher fat regimen when
you gallbladder is needed again.
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
Quote
"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
news:e5d25b871a3c2aec2e126c7e78becdb4@news.teranews.com...
>Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to regular fat
>consumption?

Why would I do that; it works just fine?

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
www.pawbreakers.com


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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Ahhh, I haven't made it to that chapter yet. Well, I've been off that diet
and on a super high fat diet for about a month now, with nary a twinge.
Also, when doing the very low fat diet, about once every 6-8 weeks or so, I
would take a day off and eat much higher fat, perhaps that 'saved' me.
--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
www.pawbreakers.com
"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
Quote
If you don't use it you lose it. This seems to apply to gallbladders.
People
consuming very low fats do not exercise their gallbladders in their daily
food intake and when returning to normal eating can find their gallbladder
full of stones or not functioning properly.

Atkins explains this in his book and the high fat/low carb diet usually
gets
the blame as it usually coincides with starting a higher fat regimen when
you gallbladder is needed again.

"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
news:109glvg1jbn7m48@corp.supernews.com...
>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>news:e5d25b871a3c2aec2e126c7e78becdb4@news.teranews.com...
>>Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to regular
>>fat
>>consumption?
>
>Why would I do that; it works just fine?
>
>--
>Peace,
>Pen
>--
>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>www.pawbreakers.com
>
>


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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

On Tue, 4 May 2004 19:25:31 -0400, Penelope Baker
<penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote:
Quote
Personally, I think that this type of thing shows up in studies because
people fail to do low-fat right just as often as people fail to do
low-carb
right...they rely on too many calories from low fat carbs, IMHO.

When I did lowfat right (10% of daily calories from fat, 45-50% from
protein, 40-45% from carbs and eating LOTS of lean protein such as turkey
breast, chicken, tuna, salmon, tofu, seitan, legumes, 96% fat free ground
beef, venison, etc) this was the results of my cholesterol tests:

Pre very low-fat: 278 total cholesterol, 74 HDL, rest LDL. 128
triglycerides.
Post very low-fat: 176 total cholesterol, 80 HDL, rest LDL. 38
triglycerides.

I had the opposite effect -- going from low fat to low carb raised my HDL
and improved my ratios. Moreover, low fat caused me to become insulin
resistant.
--
Bob in CT
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

In article <109g9fiot1ra357@corp.supernews.com>, Penelope Baker wrote:
Quote
Personally, I think that this type of thing shows up in studies because
people fail to do low-fat right just as often as people fail to do low-carb
right...they rely on too many calories from low fat carbs, IMHO.

When I did lowfat right (10% of daily calories from fat, 45-50% from
protein, 40-45% from carbs and eating LOTS of lean protein such as turkey
breast, chicken, tuna, salmon, tofu, seitan, legumes, 96% fat free ground
beef, venison, etc) this was the results of my cholesterol tests:
salmon is NOT "lean protein". Salmon is a very fatty fish.
Quote
Pre very low-fat: 278 total cholesterol, 74 HDL, rest LDL. 128
triglycerides.
Post very low-fat: 176 total cholesterol, 80 HDL, rest LDL. 38
triglycerides.

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"Ignoramus24994" <ignoramus24994@NOSPAM.24994.invalid>wrote in message
<snip>
Quote
salmon is NOT "lean protein". Salmon is a very fatty fish.
True, but when eaten in a daily overall picture of '10% of the day's
calories from fat' I could fit it in on days when I ate 1800 kcal or higher
;-)
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

In article <k6Slc.4768$yc7.4544@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>,
"BJ in Texas" <bjtexas@hotmale.com>wrote:
Quote
Diarmid Logan wrote:
>
www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml§i
on=news
<Snip>
>
>SOURCE: Journal of the American College of Nutrition, April
>2004.

Wonder how long it will take before all of these people and their dietary
studies will finally come to the conclusion that they don't have a clue?

BJ
Well the studies are necessarily run by doctors.
Perhaps a joke illustrates the point.
The catch a fraudulent doctor, the people he fooled are saying ,
"He wore a white coat and acted arrogant; how would we know he wasn't a
doctor?"
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml
Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A relatively high amount of fat in the
diet may be a boon to a healthy person's cholesterol levels, a small
study suggests. On the other hand, limiting fat intake too much could
have the opposite effect.
Researchers at the State University of New York at Buffalo found that
when 11 healthy but sedentary adults followed a very low-fat diet (19
percent of calories from fat) for three weeks, they saw a drop in
their HDL cholesterol -- the "good" cholesterol believed to protect
against heart disease.
In contrast, three weeks on a diet that provided 50 percent of
calories from fat boosted participants' HDL levels, according to
findings published in the Journal of the American College of
Nutrition.
To circulate in the blood, cholesterol must be attached to a protein,
forming a complex called a lipoprotein. HDL, or high-density
lipoprotein, molecules carry cholesterol away from the arteries and to
the liver to be cleared from the body. Experts believe that an HDL
level of 60 or more helps lower the risk of heart disease, while a
level lower than 40 raises the risk.
The new findings suggest that adequate fat intake can help ward off
heart disease by raising HDL.
"That isn't to say we think everyone should be on a 50-percent fat
diet," study co-author Dr. David R. Pendergast told Reuters Health.
But, he said, the findings do indicate that moderation, and not tight
restriction, is the way to go. According to Pendergast, that means
getting about 30 to 35 percent of calories from fat -- at or slightly
more than the level health officials currently recommend.
But he also stressed the importance of calorie balance, which means
eating only enough to meet the body's calorie expenditure. Fat has
more calories per gram than either carbohydrates or protein, and if a
person takes in more calories as a result of eating more fat, weight
gain may follow.
While saturated fat is blamed for raising "bad" LDL cholesterol
levels, Pendergast said it may in fact be the combination of lots of
fat and too many calories that makes for unhealthy cholesterol
profiles.
In his team's study, the high-fat diet -- rich in foods such as red
meat and olive oil -- provided roughly the same number of daily
calories as participants' regular diets, which contained about 30
percent of calories from fat.
The 19-percent low-fat diet had fewer calories, and men and women in
the study lost a small amount of weight while following it. Their HDL
levels, however, were significantly lower on this diet than on the
high-fat one-an average of 54 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), versus
63 mg/dL, Pendergast and his colleagues found.
What's more, the high-fat diet did not boost LDL cholesterol beyond
the levels participants had on their regular diets.
Although the men and women followed each diet for only three weeks,
Pendergast said he does not think the cholesterol effects are
"transient."
He and his colleagues had previously conducted a similar study with
endurance runners, in which a very low fat intake had negative effects
on HDL cholesterol and on immune function. Pendergast said this
research suggests that both healthy, sedentary people and healthy
athletes are "probably not well served" by diets very low in fat.
Whether high- and low-fat diets have the same effects in obese
individuals or those with cardiovascular disease is not yet clear, he
noted.
As for why a high-fat, calorie-conscious diet might bump up HDL
levels, one theory is that dietary fat leads to higher levels of the
chief HDL transporter protein, ApoA1.
SOURCE: Journal of the American College of Nutrition, April 2004.
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Study finds: we knew this at least 3-5 years ago so please keep up.
Lyle
Keano wrote:
Quote

www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml

Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A relatively high amount of fat in the
diet may be a boon to a healthy person's cholesterol levels, a small
study suggests. On the other hand, limiting fat intake too much could
have the opposite effect.

Researchers at the State University of New York at Buffalo found that
when 11 healthy but sedentary adults followed a very low-fat diet (19
percent of calories from fat) for three weeks, they saw a drop in
their HDL cholesterol -- the "good" cholesterol believed to protect
against heart disease.

In contrast, three weeks on a diet that provided 50 percent of
calories from fat boosted participants' HDL levels, according to
findings published in the Journal of the American College of
Nutrition.

To circulate in the blood, cholesterol must be attached to a protein,
forming a complex called a lipoprotein. HDL, or high-density
lipoprotein, molecules carry cholesterol away from the arteries and to
the liver to be cleared from the body. Experts believe that an HDL
level of 60 or more helps lower the risk of heart disease, while a
level lower than 40 raises the risk.

The new findings suggest that adequate fat intake can help ward off
heart disease by raising HDL.

"That isn't to say we think everyone should be on a 50-percent fat
diet," study co-author Dr. David R. Pendergast told Reuters Health.

But, he said, the findings do indicate that moderation, and not tight
restriction, is the way to go. According to Pendergast, that means
getting about 30 to 35 percent of calories from fat -- at or slightly
more than the level health officials currently recommend.

But he also stressed the importance of calorie balance, which means
eating only enough to meet the body's calorie expenditure. Fat has
more calories per gram than either carbohydrates or protein, and if a
person takes in more calories as a result of eating more fat, weight
gain may follow.

While saturated fat is blamed for raising "bad" LDL cholesterol
levels, Pendergast said it may in fact be the combination of lots of
fat and too many calories that makes for unhealthy cholesterol
profiles.

In his team's study, the high-fat diet -- rich in foods such as red
meat and olive oil -- provided roughly the same number of daily
calories as participants' regular diets, which contained about 30
percent of calories from fat.

The 19-percent low-fat diet had fewer calories, and men and women in
the study lost a small amount of weight while following it. Their HDL
levels, however, were significantly lower on this diet than on the
high-fat one-an average of 54 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), versus
63 mg/dL, Pendergast and his colleagues found.

What's more, the high-fat diet did not boost LDL cholesterol beyond
the levels participants had on their regular diets.

Although the men and women followed each diet for only three weeks,
Pendergast said he does not think the cholesterol effects are
"transient."

He and his colleagues had previously conducted a similar study with
endurance runners, in which a very low fat intake had negative effects
on HDL cholesterol and on immune function. Pendergast said this
research suggests that both healthy, sedentary people and healthy
athletes are "probably not well served" by diets very low in fat.

Whether high- and low-fat diets have the same effects in obese
individuals or those with cardiovascular disease is not yet clear, he
noted.

As for why a high-fat, calorie-conscious diet might bump up HDL
levels, one theory is that dietary fat leads to higher levels of the
chief HDL transporter protein, ApoA1.

SOURCE: Journal of the American College of Nutrition, April 2004.
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Pizza Gurl wrote:
Quote

Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to regular fat
consumption?
It usually takes longer than 6 months on low fat to damage the
gall bladder.
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Very good! It probably did save you. That would definitely exercise the
gallbladder and probably kep it healthy.
This also helps the body confusion principle. After the body get used to
something or is deprived of something it learns to adapt. Eating high fats
one day can use this body confusion to an advantage. I bet you lost weight
the next day after your high fat day.
"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
Quote
Ahhh, I haven't made it to that chapter yet. Well, I've been off that
diet
and on a super high fat diet for about a month now, with nary a twinge.
Also, when doing the very low fat diet, about once every 6-8 weeks or so,
I
would take a day off and eat much higher fat, perhaps that 'saved' me.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
www.pawbreakers.com


"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
news:5cdf8471d0a6f7327c1a97c214f06475@news.teranews.com...
>If you don't use it you lose it. This seems to apply to gallbladders.
>People
>consuming very low fats do not exercise their gallbladders in their
daily
>food intake and when returning to normal eating can find their
gallbladder
>full of stones or not functioning properly.
>
>Atkins explains this in his book and the high fat/low carb diet usually
>gets
>the blame as it usually coincides with starting a higher fat regimen
when
>you gallbladder is needed again.
>
>"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>news:109glvg1jbn7m48@corp.supernews.com...
>>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>news:e5d25b871a3c2aec2e126c7e78becdb4@news.teranews.com...
>>>Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to regular
>>>fat
>>>consumption?
>>
>>Why would I do that; it works just fine?
>>
>>--
>>Peace,
>>Pen
>>--
>>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>>www.pawbreakers.com
>>
>>
>
>


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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

In article <5e43b583e11baf2a6c0ca8cd0e6bfca1@news.teranews.com>,
Pizza Gurl <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote:
Quote
Very good! It probably did save you. That would definitely exercise the
gallbladder and probably kep it healthy.

This also helps the body confusion principle. After the body get used to
something or is deprived of something it learns to adapt. Eating high fats
one day can use this body confusion to an advantage. I bet you lost weight
the next day after your high fat day.
Dr. "Squat" Hatfield touts his zig-zag diet for losing or gaining weight.
Ideally, you'd determine your caloric needs based on your near-future
activities (he mainly has athletes in mind). You should be getting so
many calories from protein, so many from fat, and the remainder from
carbs. The zig-zag part is the "confusion" thing you mentioned; if you're
losing weight, then do something like three or four days at low calories,
then one or two days at high calories, to keep your metabolism from going
into starvation mode.
Quote

"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
news:109gok7dr3p1q14@corp.supernews.com...
>Ahhh, I haven't made it to that chapter yet. Well, I've been off that
diet
>and on a super high fat diet for about a month now, with nary a twinge.
>Also, when doing the very low fat diet, about once every 6-8 weeks or so,
I
>would take a day off and eat much higher fat, perhaps that 'saved' me.
>
>--
>Peace,
>Pen
>--
>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>www.pawbreakers.com
>
>
>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>news:5cdf8471d0a6f7327c1a97c214f06475@news.teranews.com...
>>If you don't use it you lose it. This seems to apply to gallbladders.
>>People
>>consuming very low fats do not exercise their gallbladders in their
daily
>>food intake and when returning to normal eating can find their
gallbladder
>>full of stones or not functioning properly.
>>
>>Atkins explains this in his book and the high fat/low carb diet usually
>>gets
>>the blame as it usually coincides with starting a higher fat regimen
when
>>you gallbladder is needed again.
>>
>>"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>news:109glvg1jbn7m48@corp.supernews.com...
>>>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>>news:e5d25b871a3c2aec2e126c7e78becdb4@news.teranews.com...
>>>>Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to regular
>>>>fat
>>>>consumption?
>>>
>>>Why would I do that; it works just fine?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Peace,
>>>Pen
>>>--
>>>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>>>www.pawbreakers.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


--
"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of
Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Weight Watchers uses a principle similiar to this in their diet. They have a
reserve of "points" that you are required to use once per week.
"Gymmy Bob" <NoThanx@spammie.com>wrote in message
Quote
Is that old guy still pumping iron? I thought he'd be dead by now.

"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu>wrote in message
news:c7c4c8$2m2$2@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
>In article <5e43b583e11baf2a6c0ca8cd0e6bfca1@news.teranews.com>,
>Pizza Gurl <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>Very good! It probably did save you. That would definitely exercise
the
>>gallbladder and probably kep it healthy.
>>
>>This also helps the body confusion principle. After the body get used
to
>>something or is deprived of something it learns to adapt. Eating high
fats
>>one day can use this body confusion to an advantage. I bet you lost
weight
>>the next day after your high fat day.
>
>Dr. "Squat" Hatfield touts his zig-zag diet for losing or gaining
weight.
>Ideally, you'd determine your caloric needs based on your near-future
>activities (he mainly has athletes in mind). You should be getting so
>many calories from protein, so many from fat, and the remainder from
>carbs. The zig-zag part is the "confusion" thing you mentioned; if
you're
>losing weight, then do something like three or four days at low
calories,
>then one or two days at high calories, to keep your metabolism from
going
>into starvation mode.
>
>>
>>"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>news:109gok7dr3p1q14@corp.supernews.com...
>>>Ahhh, I haven't made it to that chapter yet. Well, I've been off
that
>>diet
>>>and on a super high fat diet for about a month now, with nary a
twinge.
>>>Also, when doing the very low fat diet, about once every 6-8 weeks or
so,
>>I
>>>would take a day off and eat much higher fat, perhaps that 'saved'
me.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Peace,
>>>Pen
>>>--
>>>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>>>www.pawbreakers.com
>>>
>>>
>>>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>>news:5cdf8471d0a6f7327c1a97c214f06475@news.teranews.com...
>>>>If you don't use it you lose it. This seems to apply to
gallbladders.
>>>>People
>>>>consuming very low fats do not exercise their gallbladders in their
>>daily
>>>>food intake and when returning to normal eating can find their
>>gallbladder
>>>>full of stones or not functioning properly.
>>>>
>>>>Atkins explains this in his book and the high fat/low carb diet
usually
>>>>gets
>>>>the blame as it usually coincides with starting a higher fat
regimen
>>when
>>>>you gallbladder is needed again.
>>>>
>>>>"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>>>news:109glvg1jbn7m48@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>>>>news:e5d25b871a3c2aec2e126c7e78becdb4@news.teranews.com...
>>>>>>Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to
regular
>>>>>>fat
>>>>>>consumption?
>>>>>
>>>>>Why would I do that; it works just fine?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Peace,
>>>>>Pen
>>>>>--
>>>>>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>>>>>www.pawbreakers.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of
>Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain


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Re:Study: Low-Fat May Not Be Best for Heart

Is that old guy still pumping iron? I thought he'd be dead by now.
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu>wrote in message
Quote
In article <5e43b583e11baf2a6c0ca8cd0e6bfca1@news.teranews.com>,
Pizza Gurl <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote:
>Very good! It probably did save you. That would definitely exercise the
>gallbladder and probably kep it healthy.
>
>This also helps the body confusion principle. After the body get used to
>something or is deprived of something it learns to adapt. Eating high
fats
>one day can use this body confusion to an advantage. I bet you lost
weight
>the next day after your high fat day.

Dr. "Squat" Hatfield touts his zig-zag diet for losing or gaining weight.
Ideally, you'd determine your caloric needs based on your near-future
activities (he mainly has athletes in mind). You should be getting so
many calories from protein, so many from fat, and the remainder from
carbs. The zig-zag part is the "confusion" thing you mentioned; if you're
losing weight, then do something like three or four days at low calories,
then one or two days at high calories, to keep your metabolism from going
into starvation mode.

>
>"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>news:109gok7dr3p1q14@corp.supernews.com...
>>Ahhh, I haven't made it to that chapter yet. Well, I've been off that
>diet
>>and on a super high fat diet for about a month now, with nary a twinge.
>>Also, when doing the very low fat diet, about once every 6-8 weeks or
so,
>I
>>would take a day off and eat much higher fat, perhaps that 'saved' me.
>>
>>--
>>Peace,
>>Pen
>>--
>>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>>www.pawbreakers.com
>>
>>
>>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>news:5cdf8471d0a6f7327c1a97c214f06475@news.teranews.com...
>>>If you don't use it you lose it. This seems to apply to gallbladders.
>>>People
>>>consuming very low fats do not exercise their gallbladders in their
>daily
>>>food intake and when returning to normal eating can find their
>gallbladder
>>>full of stones or not functioning properly.
>>>
>>>Atkins explains this in his book and the high fat/low carb diet
usually
>>>gets
>>>the blame as it usually coincides with starting a higher fat regimen
>when
>>>you gallbladder is needed again.
>>>
>>>"Penelope Baker" <penelope_baker@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>>news:109glvg1jbn7m48@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>"Pizza Gurl" <gbusey@hotmail.com>wrote in message
>>>>news:e5d25b871a3c2aec2e126c7e78becdb4@news.teranews.com...
>>>>>Have you had your gallbladder removed yet after returning to
regular
>>>>>fat
>>>>>consumption?
>>>>
>>>>Why would I do that; it works just fine?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Peace,
>>>>Pen
>>>>--
>>>>Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
>>>>www.pawbreakers.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


--
"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of
Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
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