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2004-04-09 02:32:53 AM
Anyone know the benefits of glycerin? I got some today as a
sweetener
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Re:glycerin benefits

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 18:32:53 GMT, anonymous@coolgroups.com posted:
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Anyone know the benefits of glycerin? I got some today as a
sweetener
None. Fat is roughly 10% glycerol.
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Re:glycerin benefits

anonymous@coolgroups.com writes:
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Anyone know the benefits of glycerin? I got some today as a
sweetener
There aren't any nutritional benefits. It has calories just as any
other food does, so it's not useful for weight control. It is often
used in foods to give them a smooth or persistently moist texture, but
there really isn't anything special about it.
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Re:glycerin benefits

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 18:32:53 GMT, anonymous@coolgroups.com wrote:
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Anyone know the benefits of glycerin? I got some today as a
sweetener
I've found it very helpful in giving up sugar and starches.
[[ www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/what_is_hypo.html
By Jurriaan Plesman BA(Psych), Post Grad Dip Clin Nutr
/re 'withdrawal' from sugar/
these unpleasant feelings can be alleviated, by taking a tablespoon of
glycerine mixed in milk or diluted natural fruit juice or better still in a
glass of water three times a day. When glycerine is metabolised into
"energy" in the liver, it by-passes glucose, and is therefore not
recognized by the pancreas as sugar. ]]
For me it seems to give some 'mental energy' like from sugar but gentler
and slower. I don't feel a 'spike' or 'crash' with it. I took it for a
nwhile but now don't want it or any other sweetener. (I've just begun
trying Glutamine and Carnitine instead - also cinnamon capsules.)
Glycerine/glycerol does have carbs and calories but I think not as many as
sugar.
If you try it I'd like to know what results you get.
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I've found it very helpful in giving up sugar and starches.
But since glycerol just gets converted to glucose, just like
carbohydrates, what's the point?
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I hope some of the experts here will correct me, but the impression I'm
getting is that glycerol/glycerine does not require insulin to break it
down (thus not triggering production of insulin) and can nourish the brain
cells without requiring insulin to let it in (thus bypassing insulin
resistance).
What happens if someone takes more glycerol than the body needs at the
moment, I don't know. It does have carbs and calories, tho I think not as
many as sucrose. I've been using little and phasing it out, as I don't
really understand it, and don't want to somehow build up resistance to it.
I've been saving it for when I really need a quick lift.
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:55:45 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
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anon writes:

>I've found it very helpful in giving up sugar and starches.

But since glycerol just gets converted to glucose,
Um, better check that. It may be the other way around. :-) Of course the
body can convert things back and forth to different substances at various
stages in different people. Some people think glycerol/glycerine is handled
differently depending on whether liver storage is full, whether the person
is in ketosis, etc. I've heard it may throw some people out of ketosis. For
people like me, who are not doing ketosis, it can be helpful in keeping the
BG from bouncing.
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just like
carbohydrates, what's the point?
In the article I quoted,
www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/what_is_hypo.html
the point was to help people get past the "withdrawal symptoms" of giving
up sugar and simple starches. Then they can easily phase out the glycerol,
and go on to low carb happily.
For me, being concerned with mental performance and BG regulation instead
of with weight loss, the point is that it does not spike the BG. It has a
GL of 0.
This addresses it somewhat. Scroll down past the discussion of the other
-ol products, as 'glycerol/glycerine' seems to be a bit different, in spite
of also ending in -ol.
www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm
Skinny
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Re:glycerin benefits

Skinny writes:
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I hope some of the experts here will correct me, but the impression I'm
getting is that glycerol/glycerine does not require insulin to break it
down (thus not triggering production of insulin) and can nourish the brain
cells without requiring insulin to let it in (thus bypassing insulin
resistance).
False. Glycerol is converted to glucose, which has exactly the same
effect on insulin and blood glucose equilibrium as eating sugar would
have. Metabolism of glycerol is a bit slower than that of pure sugar,
but that's all.
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What happens if someone takes more glycerol than the body needs at the
moment, I don't know.
It gets converted back to fat, just as an overdose of sugar would.
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It does have carbs and calories, tho I think not as
many as sucrose. I've been using little and phasing it out, as I don't
really understand it, and don't want to somehow build up resistance to it.
You won't build up resistance to glycerol. It is naturally present in
fat and your body is used to dealing with it, even though it's unusual
for it to receive glycerol directly from the outside world.
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I've been saving it for when I really need a quick lift.
If it gives you a quick lift, it does so after being converted to
glucose. It's the rise in blood glucose that gives you the "lift."
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Um, better check that. It may be the other way around.
Glucose can be converted to glycogen and fat. I don't recall if
glycerol is anywhere in that chain or not, but the net result is the
same.
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Some people think glycerol/glycerine is handled differently
depending on whether liver storage is full, whether the person
is in ketosis, etc.
There are at least two ways in which it can be processed.
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I've heard it may throw some people out of ketosis.
Sure, when it is converted to glucose.
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For people like me, who are not doing ketosis, it can be helpful in keeping the
BG from bouncing.
It will raise BG just like sugar, only a bit more slowly.
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For me, being concerned with mental performance and BG regulation instead
of with weight loss, the point is that it does not spike the BG. It has a
GL of 0.
It depends on how much you eat.
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This addresses it somewhat. Scroll down past the discussion of the other
-ol products, as 'glycerol/glycerine' seems to be a bit different, in spite
of also ending in -ol.
They are identical. Two names for the same substance.
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Maybe it's different in different situations for different people. My cite
is toward the end of the article at the Mendosa url in my previous post,
www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm
and also at
www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/what_is_hypo.html
By Jurriaan Plesman BA(Psych), Post Grad Dip Clin Nutr
/snip/
, these unpleasant feelings can be alleviated, by taking a tablespoon of
glycerine mixed in milk or diluted natural fruit juice or better still in a
glass of water three times a day. When glycerine is metabolised into
"energy" in the liver, it by-passes glucose, and is therefore not
recognized by the pancreas as sugar.
Do you have cites for your view?
Skinny
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:35:29 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
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Skinny writes:

>I hope some of the experts here will correct me, but the impression I'm
>getting is that glycerol/glycerine does not require insulin to break it
>down (thus not triggering production of insulin) and can nourish the brain
>cells without requiring insulin to let it in (thus bypassing insulin
>resistance).

False. Glycerol is converted to glucose, which has exactly the same
effect on insulin and blood glucose equilibrium as eating sugar would
have. Metabolism of glycerol is a bit slower than that of pure sugar,
but that's all.

>What happens if someone takes more glycerol than the body needs at the
>moment, I don't know.

It gets converted back to fat, just as an overdose of sugar would.

>It does have carbs and calories, tho I think not as
>many as sucrose. I've been using little and phasing it out, as I don't
>really understand it, and don't want to somehow build up resistance to it.

You won't build up resistance to glycerol. It is naturally present in
fat and your body is used to dealing with it, even though it's unusual
for it to receive glycerol directly from the outside world.

>I've been saving it for when I really need a quick lift.

If it gives you a quick lift, it does so after being converted to
glucose. It's the rise in blood glucose that gives you the "lift."

>Um, better check that. It may be the other way around.

Glucose can be converted to glycogen and fat. I don't recall if
glycerol is anywhere in that chain or not, but the net result is the
same.

>Some people think glycerol/glycerine is handled differently
>depending on whether liver storage is full, whether the person
>is in ketosis, etc.

There are at least two ways in which it can be processed.

>I've heard it may throw some people out of ketosis.

Sure, when it is converted to glucose.

>For people like me, who are not doing ketosis, it can be helpful in keeping the
>BG from bouncing.

It will raise BG just like sugar, only a bit more slowly.

>For me, being concerned with mental performance and BG regulation instead
>of with weight loss, the point is that it does not spike the BG. It has a
>GL of 0.

It depends on how much you eat.

>This addresses it somewhat. Scroll down past the discussion of the other
>-ol products, as 'glycerol/glycerine' seems to be a bit different, in spite
>of also ending in -ol.

They are identical. Two names for the same substance.
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